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It really doesn't matter what the motive is when the effect is the same. Treating it as an individual moral failing isn't going to work when the incentives to fake papers (wilfully or not) are so strong. Any fix that works for 1 is going to work for 2 as well and vice versa.


You can’t legislate morality.


Most if not all legislation originated in morality at some point. We've just collectively forgotten that's still an option today.


Why not? Set up the laws to incentivize morality.


You don't even have to change the laws. Just changing the social norms would be enough. At the moment our social norms are that the ends justify the means. If you make money, or produce something that looks like a breakthrough, that is all that matters. How you did it, or whether the thing you did has actual value, matters not at all. As long as you've provided yourself with plausible deniability, that's good enough.

I know this because I've been the beneficiary of this system on multiple occasions, and it makes me sick. This is not the kind of world I want to live in.


No you can't legislate morality. But operationally we want accountability commensurate to control. As others have pointed out, there must be consequences to bs. With that in place, we don't have to legislate other than point out consequences. Now to be a pedantic, consequences are a kind of legislation, but at least it's about behavior and outcomes not intent. It would elides certain issues out of scope.




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