This is related to my earlier question: Intersection of orthogonal groups
(See also Matrix expression for elements of $SO(3)$)
I am interested in extracting symmetric elements of the orthogonal groups $O_f$ for $f$ a (non-singular) real ternary quadratic form. However, there seems to be a discrepancy that I find perplexing.
If we take $f(x,y,z) = x^2 + y^2 + z^2$, so that $O_f$ is simply the standard orthogonal group $O_3$, then the rotations in $O_3$ can be parametrized as
$$\displaystyle \begin{bmatrix} a^2+b^2-c^2-d^2&2bc-2ad &2bd+2ac \\ 2bc+2ad &a^2-b^2+c^2-d^2&2cd-2ab \\ 2bd-2ac &2cd+2ab &a^2-b^2-c^2+d^2\\ \end{bmatrix}$$
with $a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1$ (see David Speyer's answer to the second linked question above). Requiring this to be symmetric can be done simply by imposing the condition $a = 0$, which gives a generic family of the shape
$$\displaystyle \begin{bmatrix} b^2 - c^2 - d^2 & 2bc & 2bd \\ 2bc & -b^2 + c^2 - d^2 & 2cd \\ 2bd & 2cd & -b^2 - c^2 + d^2 \end{bmatrix}, \quad b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1.$$
However, if we consider the quadratic form $f(x,y,z) = y^2 -xz$, then the according to the paper Binary quartic forms having bounded invariants, and the boundedness of the average rank of elliptic curves, the generic element of $O_f$ takes the form
$$\displaystyle \frac{1}{ad-bc}\begin{bmatrix} d^2 & cd & c^2 \\ 2bd & ad + bc & 2ac \\ b^2 & ab & a^2 \end{bmatrix}, \quad ad - bc = 1.$$
Requiring a matrix of this shape to be symmetric is far more stringent. Indeed, one would require $b = c = 0$ and the resulting matrix takes the form
$$\displaystyle \frac{1}{ad} \begin{bmatrix} d^2 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & ad & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & a^2 \end{bmatrix}, \quad ad = 1.$$
Is there a reason why the two cases differ? How does one characterize quadratic forms for which one scenario happens or the other?