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It is well known that a maximal subgroup of a finite solvable group has prime power index. On the other hand, there exist nonabelian finite simple groups with maximal subgroups whose index is divisible by every prime divisor of the order of the group. One example is $\operatorname{Alt}(4) \times \operatorname{Sym}(3)$ in the Mathieu group $M_{12}$. I can see with a computer that this is very rare.

Question: List the couples $(G,H)$ where $G$ is a finite simple group and $H<G$ is a maximal subgroup such that every prime dividing $|G|$ already divides $|G:H|$.

One motivation comes from https://www.gtseminar.xyz/documents/2025-4-09-Luca.pdf. In the last slide I ask for the stronger condition of $|G:H|$ being a multiple of the exponent of $G$.

Edit: In two comments below, Sean Eberhard has found two infinite families. Geoff Robinson pointed out that the question is equivalent to listing the couples $(G,H)$ where $G$ is a finite simple group and $H$ is a maximal subgroup not containing any Sylow subgroup.

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  • $\begingroup$ This question is very vague. The sentence "there exist maximal subgroups of nonabelian finite simple groups whose index sees all the primes. (I mean all the primes dividing the order of the group.)" is very vague itself. Could you clarify the question? $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 9 at 11:33
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    $\begingroup$ Small maximal subgroups of $A_n$ will tend to give examples. For example $H = \mathrm{AGL}_1(q) \cap A_q$ is generally maximal in $G = A_q$, and $|G| = q! / 2$ while $|G:H| = (q-2)!$ or $(q-2)!/2$, so this is an example unless $q$ or $q-1$ is prime. There might actually be more hope to list the non-examples. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 9 at 14:17
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    $\begingroup$ According to Dickson's classification, $G = \mathrm{PSL}_2(p)$ contains $A_5$ as a maximal subgroup whenever $p \equiv \pm 1 \pmod {10}$ (see Theorem 2.2 in arxiv.org/abs/math/0703685), and $|G : A_5| = p(p-1)(p+1)/120$. Therefore this is an example for every prime $p$ such that $(p-1)(p+1)$ is divisible by $3600$, e.g., for every prime $p \equiv 1 \pmod{3600}$. One could similarly use the $A_4$ and $S_4$ maximal subgroups. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 9 at 14:56
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    $\begingroup$ For the last part of your question, you could phrase it "which finite simple groups have a maximal subgroup containing no Sylow subgroup ?" $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 9 at 20:06
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    $\begingroup$ @SeanEberhard I don't think $A_4$ works, because it has odd index whenever it is maximal in ${\rm PSL}(2,p)$, but $S_4$ is often an example. Also, you should probably make your comments into an answer. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 10 at 8:03

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If $G = A_n$ then I would rather try to classify the non-examples. Suppose $H < A_n$ is maximal. If $H$ is intransitive or imprimitive then everything is explicit and we have a formula for the index, so just go away and check that and report back. Now assume $H$ is primitive and suppose $H$ contains a Sylow $p$-subgroup of $A_n$, where $p \le n$. If $p = 2$ then this implies $H$ is of exponential order, so there must be finitely many examples (most likely just $\mathrm{GL}_3(2) \le A_7$ and $\mathrm{AGL}_3(2) \le A_8$). Now assume $p > 2$. Then $H$ contains a $p$-cycle. By Jordan's theorem, it follows that $p \in \{n-2, n-1, n\}$. The examples can be listed: see Jones [1] Theorem 1.2.

Next, we can look for low-rank examples by looking for small-order maximal subgroups. See King [2].

  1. From [2, Corollary 2.2(f,h)], $G = \mathrm{PSL}_2(p)$ has $H = S_4$ as a maximal subgroup whenever $p \equiv \pm 1 \pmod 8$, and $|G:H| = p(p-1)(p+1)/48$, so this is an example whenever $288 \mid (p^2-1)$. Similarly, $H = A_5$ is a maximal subgroup whenever $p \equiv \pm 1 \pmod{10}$, of index $|G:H| = p(p-1)(p+1)/120$ so we have another example whenever $3600 \mid (p^2-1)$. (As Derek Holt rightly points out, $H = A_4$ does not give an example.)

  2. From [2, Theorem 2.5(j,k)] there are various examples with $G = \mathrm{PSL}_3(p)$, I think. For example $H = \mathrm{PSL}_2(7)$ is a subgroup (apparently maximal) whenever $-7$ is a square mod $p$ and $|G:H| = p^3(p^3-1)(p^2-1)/(3,p-1)/168$, so this is an example whenever $-7$ is a square mod $p$ and $(p^3-1)(p^2-1)/(3,p-1)$ is divisible by $7056$, e.g., for all $p \equiv 1 \pmod {7056}$.

  3. From [2, Theorem 2.8(j)], $G = \mathrm{PSp}_4(p)$ and (for example) $H \cong A_6$ is an example with $|G:H| = p^4(p^2-1)(p^4-1) / 360$, and this works whenever $(p^2-1)(p^4-1)$ is divisible by $10800$.

  4. "etc etc"

[1] Jones, Gareth A., Primitive permutation groups containing a cycle., Bull. Aust. Math. Soc. 89, No. 1, 159-165 (2014). ZBL1297.20003.

[2] King, Oliver H., The subgroup structure of finite classical groups in terms of geometric configurations., Webb, Bridget S. (ed.), Surveys in combinatorics 2005. Papers from the 20th British combinatorial conference, University of Durham, Durham, UK, July 10–15, 2005. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press (ISBN 0-521-61523-2/pbk). London Mathematical Society Lecture Note Series 327, 29-56 (2005). ZBL1107.20035.

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  • $\begingroup$ Among maximal intransitive $H < A_n$, the only example with "arithmetically large index" seems to be $H = (S_4 \times S_6) \cap A_{10} < A_{10}$, which has index $210 = 2 \cdot 3 \cdot 5 \cdot 7$. On the other hand most maximal imprimitive $H = (S_d \wr S_{n/d}) \cap A_n < A_n$ seem to have arithmetically small index, but there are (infinitely?) many of arithmetically large index, such as $(d,n) = (6, 30), (10, 30), (6, 36), \dots$. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 11 at 12:59
  • $\begingroup$ Answering my own question, yes, there are infinitely many $H = (S_6 \wr S_{n/6}) \cap A_n < A_n$ of arithmetically large index. Actually it seems that $H = (S_d \wr S_{n/d}) \cap A_n$ tends to have arithmetically large index if and only if $d$ is not a prime power and $n$ is sufficiently large. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 11 at 13:23

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