DEV Community

Cover image for Kimi K2 vs Qwen-3 Coder: 12 Hours of Testing!
Pankaj Singh for forgecode

Posted on • Originally published at forgecode.dev

Kimi K2 vs Qwen-3 Coder: 12 Hours of Testing!

After spending 12 hours testing Kimi K2 and Qwen-3 Coder on identical Rust development tasks and Frontend Refactor tasks, I discovered something that benchmark scores don't reveal: In this testing environment, one model consistently delivered working code while the other struggled with basic instruction following. These findings challenge the hype around Qwen-3 Coder's benchmark performance and show why testing on your codebase matters more than synthetic scores.

🚀 Try The AI Shell

Your intelligent coding companion that seamlessly integrates into your workflow.

Sign in to Forge →

Testing Methodology: Real Development Scenarios

I designed this comparison around actual development scenarios that mirror daily Rust development work. No synthetic benchmarks or toy problems, just 13 challenging Rust tasks across a mature 38,000-line Rust codebase with complex async patterns, error handling, and architectural constraints, plus 2 frontend refactoring tasks across a 12,000-line React codebase.

Test Environment Specifications

Project Context:

  • Rust 1.86 with tokio async runtime
  • 38,000 lines across multiple modules
  • Complex dependency injection patterns following Inversion of Control (IoC)
  • Extensive use of traits, generics, and async/await patterns
  • Comprehensive test suite with integration tests
  • React frontend with 12,000 lines using modern hooks and component patterns
  • Well-documented coding guidelines (provided as custom rules/ cursor rules/ claude rules, in different coding agents)

Testing Categories:

  • Pointed File Changes (4 tasks): Specific modifications to designated files
  • Bug Finding & Fixing (5 tasks): Real bugs with reproduction steps and failing tests
  • Feature Implementation (4 tasks): New functionality from clear requirements
  • Frontend Refactor (2 tasks): UI improvements using Forge agent with Playwright MCP

Evaluation Criteria:

  • Code correctness and compilation success
  • Instruction adherence and scope compliance
  • Time to completion
  • Number of iterations required
  • Quality of final implementation
  • Token usage efficiency

Performance Analysis: Comprehensive Results

Overall Task Completion Summary

Category Kimi K2 Success Rate Qwen-3 Coder Success Rate Time Difference
Pointed File Changes 4/4 (100%) 3/4 (75%) 2.1x faster
Bug Detection & Fixing 4/5 (80%) 1/5 (20%) 3.2x faster
Feature Implementation 4/4 (100%) 2/4 (50%) 2.8x faster
Frontend Refactor 2/2 (100%) 1/2 (50%) 1.9x faster
Overall 14/15 (93%) 7/15 (47%) 2.5x faster
Image descriptionFigure 1: Task completion analysis - autonomous vs guided success rates (only successful completions shown)

Tool Calling and Patch Generation Analysis

Metric Kimi K2 Qwen-3 Coder Analysis
Total Patch Calls 811 701 Similar volume
Tool Call Errors 185 (23%) 135 (19%) Qwen-3 slightly better
Successful Patches 626 (77%) 566 (81%) Comparable reliability
Clean Compilation Rate 89% 72% Kimi K2 advantage

Both models struggled with tool schemas, particularly patch operations. However, AI agents retry failed tool calls, so the final patch generation success wasn't affected by initial errors. The key difference emerged in code quality and compilation success rates.

Bug Detection and Resolution Comparison

Kimi K2 Performance:

  • 4/5 bugs fixed correctly on first attempt
  • Average resolution time: 8.5 minutes
  • Maintained original test logic while fixing underlying issues
  • Only struggled with tokio::RwLock deadlock scenario
  • Preserved business logic integrity

Qwen-3 Coder Performance:

  • 1/5 bugs fixed correctly
  • Frequently modified test assertions instead of fixing bugs
  • Introduced hardcoded values to make tests pass
  • Changed business logic rather than addressing root causes
  • Average resolution time: 22 minutes (when successful)

Feature Implementation: Autonomous Development Capability

Task Completion Analysis

Kimi K2 Results:

  • 2/4 tasks completed autonomously (12 and 15 minutes respectively)
  • 2/4 tasks required minimal guidance (1-2 prompts)
  • Performed well on feature enhancements of existing functionality
  • Required more guidance for completely new features without examples
  • Maintained code style and architectural patterns consistently

Qwen-3 Coder Results:

  • 0/4 tasks completed autonomously
  • Required 3-4 reprompts per task minimum
  • Frequently deleted working code to "start fresh"
  • After 40 minutes of prompting, only 2/4 tasks reached completion
  • 2 tasks abandoned due to excessive iteration cycles

Instruction Following Analysis

The biggest difference emerged in instruction adherence. Despite providing coding guidelines as system prompts, the models behaved differently:

Instruction Type Kimi K2 Compliance Qwen-3 Coder Compliance
Error Handling Patterns 7/8 tasks (87%) 3/8 tasks (37%)
API Compatibility 8/8 tasks (100%) 4/8 tasks (50%)
Code Style Guidelines 7/8 tasks (87%) 2/8 tasks (25%)
File Modification Scope 8/8 tasks (100%) 5/8 tasks (62%)

Kimi K2 Behavior:

  • Consistently followed project coding standards
  • Respected file modification boundaries
  • Maintained existing function signatures
  • Asked clarifying questions when requirements were ambiguous
  • Compiled and tested code before submission

Qwen-3 Coder Pattern:

// Guidelines specified: "Use Result<T, E> for error handling" // Qwen-3 Output: panic!("This should never happen"); // or .unwrap() in multiple places // Guidelines specified: "Maintain existing API compatibility" // Qwen-3 Output: Changed function signatures breaking 15 call sites 
Enter fullscreen mode Exit fullscreen mode

This pattern repeated across tasks, indicating issues with instruction processing rather than isolated incidents.

Frontend Development: Visual Reasoning Without Images

Testing both models on frontend refactoring tasks using Forge agent with Playwright MCP and Context7 MCP revealed insights about their visual reasoning capabilities despite lacking direct image support.

Kimi K2 Approach:

  • Analyzed existing component structure intelligently
  • Made reasonable assumptions about UI layout
  • Provided maintainability-focused suggestions
  • Preserved accessibility patterns
  • Completed refactor with minimal guidance
  • Maintained responsiveness and design system consistency
  • Reused existing components effectively
  • Made incremental improvements without breaking functionality

Qwen-3 Coder Approach:

  • Deleted existing components instead of refactoring
  • Ignored established design system patterns
  • Required multiple iterations to understand component relationships
  • Broke responsive layouts without consideration
  • Deleted analytics and tracking code
  • Used hardcoded values instead of variable bindings

🚀 Try The AI Shell

Your intelligent coding companion that seamlessly integrates into your workflow.

Sign in to Forge →

Cost and Context Analysis

Development Efficiency Metrics

Metric Kimi K2 Qwen-3 Coder Difference
Average Time per Completed Task 13.3 minutes 18 minutes 26% faster
Total Project Cost $42.50 $69.50 39% cheaper
Tasks Completed 14/15 (93%) 7/15 (47%) 2x completion rate
Tasks Abandoned 1/15 (7%) 2/15 (13%) Better persistence

Different providers had different rates, making exact cost calculation challenging since we used OpenRouter, which distributes loads across multiple providers. The total cost for Kimi K2 was $42.50, with an average time of 13.3 minutes per task (including prompting when required).

Kimi 2 Usage

Kimi K2 usage costs across OpenRouter providers - showing consistent 131K context length and varying pricing from $0.55-$0.60 input, $2.20-$2.50 output

However, Qwen-3 Coder's cost was almost double that of Kimi K2. The average time per task was around 18 minutes (including required prompting), costing $69.50 total for the 15 tasks, with 2 tasks abandoned.

Qwen 3 Coder

Qwen-3 Coder usage costs across OpenRouter providers - identical pricing structure but higher total usage leading to increased costs

Image descriptionFigure 3: Cost and time comparison - direct project investment analysis

Efficiency Metrics

Metric Kimi K2 Qwen-3 Coder Advantage
Cost per Completed Task $3.04 $9.93 3.3x cheaper
Time Efficiency 26% faster Baseline Kimi K2
Success Rate 93% 47% 2x better
Tasks Completed 14/15 (93%) 7/15 (47%) 2x completion rate
Tasks Abandoned 1/15 (7%) 2/15 (13%) Better persistence

Context Length and Performance

Kimi K2:

  • Context length: 131k tokens (consistent across providers)
  • Inference speed: Fast, especially with Groq
  • Memory usage: Efficient context utilization

Qwen-3 Coder:

  • Context length: 262k to 1M tokens (varies by provider)
  • Inference speed: Good, but slower than Kimi K2
  • Memory usage: Higher context overhead

The Deadlock Challenge: A Technical Deep Dive

The most revealing test involved a tokio::RwLock deadlock scenario that highlighted differences in problem-solving approaches:

Kimi K2's 18-minute analysis:

  • Systematically analyzed lock acquisition patterns
  • Identified potential deadlock scenarios
  • Attempted multiple resolution strategies
  • Eventually acknowledged complexity and requested guidance
  • Maintained code integrity throughout the process

Qwen-3 Coder's approach:

  • Immediately suggested removing all locks (breaking thread safety)
  • Proposed unsafe code as solutions
  • Changed test expectations rather than fixing the deadlock
  • Never demonstrated understanding of underlying concurrency issues

Benchmark vs Reality: The Performance Gap

Qwen-3 Coder's impressive benchmark scores don't translate to real-world development effectiveness. This disconnect reveals critical limitations in how we evaluate AI coding assistants.

Why Benchmarks Miss the Mark

Benchmark Limitations:

  • Synthetic problems with clear, isolated solutions
  • No requirement for instruction adherence or constraint compliance
  • Success measured only by final output, not development process
  • Missing evaluation of maintainability and code quality
  • No assessment of collaborative development patterns

Real-World Requirements:

  • Working within existing codebases and architectural constraints
  • Following team coding standards and style guides
  • Maintaining backward compatibility
  • Iterative development with changing requirements
  • Code review and maintainability considerations

🚀 Try The AI Shell

Your intelligent coding companion that seamlessly integrates into your workflow.

Sign in to Forge →

Limitations and Context

Before diving into results, it's important to acknowledge the scope of this comparison:

Testing Limitations:

  • Single codebase testing (38k-line Rust project + 12k-line React frontend)
  • Results may not generalize to other codebases, languages, or development styles
  • No statistical significance testing due to small sample size
  • Potential bias toward specific coding patterns and preferences
  • Models tested via OpenRouter with varying provider availability

What This Comparison Doesn't Cover:

  • Performance on other programming languages beyond Rust and React
  • Behavior with different prompt engineering approaches
  • Enterprise codebases with different architectural patterns

These results reflect a specific testing environment and should be considered alongside other evaluations before making model selection decisions.

Conclusion

This testing reveals that Qwen-3 Coder's benchmark scores don't translate well to this specific development workflow. While it may excel at isolated coding challenges, it struggled with the collaborative, constraint-aware development patterns used in this project.

In this testing environment, Kimi K2 consistently delivered working code with minimal oversight, demonstrating better instruction adherence and code quality. Its approach aligned better with the established development workflow and coding standards.

AWESOME

The context length advantage of Qwen-3 Coder (up to 1M tokens vs. 131k) didn't compensate for its instruction following issues in this testing. For both models, inference speed was good, but Kimi K2 with Groq provided noticeably faster responses.

While these open-source models are improving rapidly, they still lag behind closed-source models like Claude Sonnet 4 and Opus 4 in this testing. However, based on this evaluation, Kimi K2 performed better for these specific Rust development needs.

Related Articles

Top comments (8)

Collapse
 
robertthomas profile image
Robert Thomas

**This is a genuinely impressive deep dive—way more useful than synthetic benchmark comparisons. The side-by-side evaluation on real Rust and React codebases really helps contextualize how these models behave in actual development workflows. The fact that Kimi K2 maintained architectural constraints and respected scope boundaries while Qwen-3 Coder struggled with instruction adherence is telling.

What stands out most is the breakdown of failure patterns—especially Qwen-3 Coder changing APIs, hardcoding values, or misinterpreting error handling requirements. Those aren’t just bugs—they're signals of how well (or poorly) a model can act like a junior engineer embedded in a real team.

That said, I really appreciate the clear disclaimer about testing limitations—this wasn’t a universal verdict, but a focused, well-documented scenario. It highlights a key takeaway: you have to test LLMs in your own environment, on your own workflows, because benchmarks don’t cover teamwork, codebase complexity, or adherence to style guides.

Killer write-up. Subscribed!**

Collapse
 
pankaj_singh_1022ee93e755 profile image
Pankaj Singh

Thanks for the comment robert!!! Please share this with you folks aswell

Collapse
 
robertthomas profile image
Robert Thomas

Absolutely, happy to share! Appreciate the kind words 🙌 — passing it along to the crew now. Let’s keep the convo going!

Thread Thread
 
pankaj_singh_1022ee93e755 profile image
Pankaj Singh

Perfectoo 🔥

Thread Thread
 
robertthomas profile image
Robert Thomas

Glad you vibed with it — more coming your way soon! 🚀📸

Collapse
 
kanchan_negi_12ef486e0c55 profile image
kanchan negi

12 hours? seriously!!! This is awesome!!!

Collapse
 
pankaj_singh_1022ee93e755 profile image
Pankaj Singh

Thanks for reading...!!!

Collapse
 
robertthomas profile image
Robert Thomas

dribbble.com/shots/26318383-Top-10...
follow us on dribble.com